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Post YAMAHA ZUMA bugeye50, bws
Hello

New on the forum, but I've been creeping around for the last 2-3 months. Finally got my hands on a 2004 Zuma 50 from a girl I found on Craigslist. There were a few out there, but this was the most pleasant to deal with compared to the remainder of the people before her. She owned it since 2003 as one owner.

I thought that starting a thread would not only benefit me in keep tracking of everything, but may also aid others on their build and I would also be able to obtain great advice from the forum users here.

A little background before I start posting.
I've owned an R6 and a ZX6r. I have my motorcycle license. Have I enjoyed riding? Yes, I ride because I love to ride, and I'm certain a few of you here understand what I mean. The R6 was a total loss by a drunk driver that ran OVER it while it was parked, the ZX6r was sold few months before the incident. Thankfully I had 5 witnesses with videos photos to provide to the police and I was able to get the money back from the insurance company in five days. But instead of buying another bike which I slowly stopped riding, I used the money towards my new home.

Since then, I have not owned another motorcycle. I disliked constantly clutching, I disliked how truck drivers hate me even though I'm riding safely and not recklessly. I disliked how it took so much time to put on all my gear compared to jumping into my car, and the biggest dislike was the aggressive riding position.

Since then I never looked at any motorcycles. Until I ran into a scooter photo.
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Whoever you are, and if you're on this forum, thank you.

I continued researching these Zumas, I loved the looks and the riding position. And found that it's automatic and not a crotch rocket to put my life in danger. Yes, the R6 throttle is NOT friendly at all. There can almost be no mistake on that thing, and people hate you.

I live in Richmond, a small little city below Vancouver. Luxury cars is common. Everywhere~ Lamborghinis and Ferraris is a common car, people drive Maserati like they're Civics. I don't see scooters around at all. But hey, who says I can't want one? I own two cars, one for me, one for my wife. And then this goes on... I love to get a scooter to commute.

I started my hunt after seeing that photo. Found it as a Zuma 125 but I could not locate one in the area for a decent price, actually, I can hardly find one for sale that's used.. This being a commuter toy for me (Rain is common here, thus the reason we are named Raincouver by some locals), I didn't want to spend too much money.
I could only locate some less costly Zuma 50. Being a 50cc with no restrictions to have a motorcycle license, I see why there's so many for sale compared to the 125.

So I work in a shop as the office staff. I have knowledge in papers and parts, but I'm not mechnically driven. I've learnt most of the things through this forum, and again, thank you~
My shop was nice enough to lend me the man power and truck to go 30km away to pick up the vehicle.
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The bike came with a Givi box, looks ugly, but definitely convenient. And this is after the wash~
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On the following day. I had a company that I work with named "Patch n Match" come in to work on some cars. I've worked with them for the last 4 years and asked what it would cost to freshen up the seats because of the gouges and scratches.
And he went away and took care of it, told me it was on the house~
Such a nice person~

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I then heard about this "Back to Black" stuff from Mothers, My manager was telling me all about it. Said not to use Armor All, but should try that stuff.
So here is it all cleaned up with Back to Black.
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Post Re: 2004 Zuma 50 Build - First Scooter
I started noticing the battery was horrible. To my disbelief after opening up the cover. The battery looks like it's bulging and about to blown up.
I noticed the battery issue because my push start doesn't work and the blinkers don't work.
I paid $1200 CAD, ofcourse, I expect wear and tear on a 2004 bike~ I expect to work on it, not perfect.
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I went ahead and ordered some gear oil and a new battery now. Gear oil was $25 CAD, but should last me a long long time. The battery was $44 CAD.
Ofcourse, as expected, this girl only rode it, not really maintained it. The gear oil came out disgusting~
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Watching a video on Youtube about how bad it could be running with no gear oil or bad gear oil. That was one of the first things I did.
Also ordered some Castrol 2 Stroke oil for $6 CAD a bottle. Wow... there was none... the tank took the whole bottle, and I had to order a second bottle.

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Now I realized I don't have a helmet. So I ordered a cheap helmet online from Fortnine.ca
Shipping was fast. Got the helmet in two days. Finally.. I get to ride on~
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As you can tell, I post pictures for everything. Because without pictures, it didn't happen.

I rode for two days and the weekend hit. I wanted to do what people talked about "Clean the Carburetor"
If there were no oil, gear oil was that bad, tires look pretty much done, battery bulging out. I doubt anyone cleaned the carbs.
So I drove back to the shop and started disassembling and picked up a $8 CAD carburetor cleaner at a place called Canadian Tire.

At this point, I disassembled the bike and noticed how much weed was growing through it. Must have been sitting outdoors for quite some time. Tons of dirt, weed, webs, and spiders lurking around.
I pulled out the carb as per Zumaforum threads LOL~ And then took the air filter out to wash. Don't worry, wife is picking me up after, so I can let things dry.
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Gunk and dirt everywhere. The air filter took effort to pull out~
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Took apart the carburetor. Read about making sure the jets were nice and clean, and I should be able to see the pin hole through it. Blasted the thing with carb cleaner.
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Here's the photos for the new battery. Never had one that required filling. Glad to have some older techs to teach me my way~ I'm not that young, but also not that old.

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After riding a few days... OMG.. I'm blinded.
I've already spent money on the scooter, the helmet, the battery, the oil, the gear oil, what's new? OMG, I need a new visor. The sun is blinding me riding home.

Thankfully, Pacific Yamaha wasn't too far away, so I got there during lunch time to pick one up before I rode home.
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So I've been riding a few days. Been fun. Also I've had a car accident just not too long ago, so the helmet strains my neck, so I don't do too much riding for the moment.
And right, ain't my fault. Other party has admitted liability.

Anyhow, l couldn't stand riding a red scooter. I just can't~ I also started noticing how courteous drivers are to scooters compared to motorcycles. Everyone yields and gives me right of way. Unless I lean to the side and wave them to pass me on a single lane, no one actually cuts me off. I'm loving this thing more and more.

So I went back to work yesterday and today to disassemble all the parts, and remove all the stickers. The bike is now waiting to get repainted. =)

And while we're waiting. I've also ordered a Naraku 70cc Big Bore Kit and the Naraku Cylinder head. I'm sure almost everyone would object to this, as I've read, not much fans out there for Naraku. But because I have a Taiwanese wife, I said "What the heck, let's try out what your country could give me". So that's on the way and hopefully gets to me next week.

Since I wanted to start back from the beginning. Motor oil checked, Gear oil checked, New belt also coming, carburetor cleaned checked. What's next? I'm thinking of brake fluid and brake pads.

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Had a few of my colleagues that came visit to do other stuff, and we all kinda went ahead at cleaning the inside since it was all apart.
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Nice right up and everyone loves photos :)

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Thank you~
I guess I left out why I took it apart. It's getting professionally painted, that's why it didnt matter what color bike I bought in the beggining.

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So last week was a tough week.
Didn't bother updating this since it doesn't seem to get much input from anyone LOL~

Tore everything apart and waiting for paint.

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Painter went in during the weekend and sent me these photos while he was painting at night~ So thankful of him to help me out!
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I wanted a very dark color but not black. I wanted the bike to blend in as one piece but also have some color contrast.

So I picked a granite grey and a pastel blue.

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Post Re: 2004 Zuma50 - 1st Scooter COMPLETE REPAINT/REBUILD-Pls H
My Athena Drive Belt and my Naraku 70cc Big Bore Kit plus the Naraku 70cc Head arrived.

I finally opened up my crankcase... it was black? Wait.. isn't it suppose to be silver? I wiped my finger around and needless to say, the belt was never changed. The black were bits and shreds of the belt. Used a blower and blew what I could off and quickly installed the belt with the help of a body man and his impact gun =)
I'm just thankful to have such great people around me.

I was told that the belt should be something I should worry about. I didn't even read much reviews since I'm so new to this. So any input would help. I don't mind getting a better one if anyone got any advice for me.

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Post Re: 2004 Zuma50 - 1st Scooter COMPLETE REPAINT/REBUILD-Pls H
At this point. Paint's completely done and I went back the next day to put things together by myself. Didn't want to trouble anyone anymore.

And I'm sure everyone's like.. Where's the pictures?

Here you go!
Any input is welcomed, positive or negative. All welcomed!
Btw.. I have the muffler cover blue right now, not intending to keep the muffler. Will be replaced in the near future.

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Post Re: 2004 Zuma50 - 1st Scooter COMPLETE REPAINT/REBUILD-Pls H
I knew the spark plug wouldn't be taken care of~
I beleive the stock is BR7HS, but I read that for a 70cc kit, I should up it to a BR8HS. I thought to myself.. what the hell, might as well~

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So I guess I haven't mentioned I have 3 painters~ The other painter is now very interested to help out on my project.

I knew things that could be done to the black plastic instead of just conditioners.
He showed me the correct way of removing all the conditioner, spray on plastic adhesion for paint, and then trim black the plastics.

So now since the vehicle has been placed back together... i'm too tired to go taking it apart. Cause winter is already on it's way (Today dropped to 13 degrees celsius in Vancouver).
So we took the battery cover off just to do a sample, and now I'm amazed.
We also changed the screw and the rusting gasket.

Will be changing all the bolts and gasket once it's too cold to ride.
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Post Re: 2004 Zuma50 - 1st Scooter COMPLETE REPAINT/REBUILD-Pls H
Now this is where I need your help and advice please!

I have a few issues that's concerning me.
- I bought the big bore kit and the head suitable for 70cc. It did not come with a wrist pin / small end bearing. I did not know I would require it until after the fact.
- I like the Naraku HPC 10mm crankshaft, also includes the bearing I need. Bearing is $20 CAD, where the kit is $130? Is it worth it?
- Will I find a performance increased with a 10mm crankshaft or do I require a 12mm to feel any performance?
- Is crankshaft upgrade worth it for me? People drive insane over here. Public streets are 50km/h, max of 60km/h before you get a ticket legally, but the roads I take, people drive at 80km/h, and I wish to have the performance to not get ran over.
- I know Stage 6 has a 12mm-10mm bearing for us to use a 12mm crankshaft, but is it worth it? I also have no clue what people mean by full circle crankshaft.
- I would like to get the most out of my money. I like the Naraku 19mm Carb, but everything I read about 19mm is quite a mixed opinion.
- What the heck is a Dellorto and a PHBG? They look identical to me. Only thing I read different was the Arreche where you can switch needles easy? Not sure how.

I am a complete noob to this stuff. I'm sorry if I ask the wrong questions.
I do intend to continue modding this scooter up~

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Post Re: 2004 Zuma50 - 1st Scooter COMPLETE REPAINT/REBUILD-Pls H
Return the athena belt for an Oem yamaha belt
There isn't an after market belt on the market for the Zuma that is worth a dam unless you are running are over range
I didn't see what pipe you are running but unless you are running over 9000 or 1000 rpm regularly the oem crank is fine
But I doubt that kit is able to turn those rpms without a lot of port work

A two stroke gets compresion two ways
First primary compression is as the fuel oil and air run past the crank (this is how the crank is lubed)
Secondary comes from the pistion
So a full circle or stuffer crank increases primary compresion

Phgb is a style of carb
Dellotoro is a brand
Archee is a diffrent. Rand and there own style that allows for very easy jet changes but they get worse mpg

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Post Re: 2004 Zuma50 - 1st Scooter COMPLETE REPAINT/REBUILD-Pls H
I can't thank you more than enough!

The aftermarket exhaust is in the near future =)
Thank you so much for your advice! Any input is great!!!

You have put things in simple terms, and yes, I have been googling and using the search day and night~ But no simple and straight up answers~

I will stay away from the crankshaft and just order the wristpin / bearing.

I guess i'll get a 17.5mm or a 19mm carburetor.

Why are all the carburetors manual choke? I guess to save on price?

Thanks so much for your input, it means alot~

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