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Post Re: 2004 Vinos 46 mph build
Ran the non kitted Vino against a 4slow Met
Just dusted him He was all done at 30 ish
I was like a 1/2 mile ahead of him

I feel so slow on the stock derestricted one compared to My wifes malossi vino
Stock de restricted pushes to 30 and drifts to 40
Cruises easily at 35

The malossi pushes right to 40 and cruises there easily then pushes to 45 .
It still does wheelies if i lean back.

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2004 Vinos Derestricted exhaust and variator stock carb with mikuni 70 main jet needle down 1 clip 40 mph
Athena Sport BBK waiting to go on

2004 Vino Malossi sport 70cc Malossi Wild Lion pipe malossi multivar 6.5 sliders green polini clutch springs stock carb 75 mikuni main one clip rich 47.5 mph Michelin S1 90/90/10 rear tire Michelin S1 3" x 10 up front

2004 Zuma Malossi sport 70 cc Technigas next r 2008 zuma torque driver polini high speed variator 5.5 grams sliders malossi delta clutch yellow contra yellow clutch springs Stock Carb 84 main jet 46 pilot jet needle 1 clip rich stock athena 14/42 gears 11 to 1 final ratio 56 mph

2005 Eton Beamer (Taiwan Zuma Clone) Airsal sport 70cc 9200 peak rpm top speed 42 77.5 mikuni jet needle 1 clip rich (sold)


Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:18 pm
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Post Re: 2004 Vinos 46 mph build
Dialed in my Wifes Vino
It was taking to long to take off the engine would have to spin up into the power band .
Opened up the clutch
Regreased the rear end while i had it apart .
Went to the polini green springs in the stock clutch they engae at about 5k rpms which is perfect for launching the vino
Stock was low 4k for clutch engagement .
Then contra spring was shot starting to slip so I tried the malossi and polini contra they did not fit right .
Tossed in the left over stock zuma much improved on the downshifting.
So clutch engages at 5k no hesitation.
Stock variator with 5.5 gram weights 7000 rpms on the throttle good acceleration
Malossi kit with malossi wild lion peaks at 9700 rpms and 46 mph.
The clutch springs and contra are right where I want them .
Have room to work with the weights and possibly swap the variator.

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2004 Vinos Derestricted exhaust and variator stock carb with mikuni 70 main jet needle down 1 clip 40 mph
Athena Sport BBK waiting to go on

2004 Vino Malossi sport 70cc Malossi Wild Lion pipe malossi multivar 6.5 sliders green polini clutch springs stock carb 75 mikuni main one clip rich 47.5 mph Michelin S1 90/90/10 rear tire Michelin S1 3" x 10 up front

2004 Zuma Malossi sport 70 cc Technigas next r 2008 zuma torque driver polini high speed variator 5.5 grams sliders malossi delta clutch yellow contra yellow clutch springs Stock Carb 84 main jet 46 pilot jet needle 1 clip rich stock athena 14/42 gears 11 to 1 final ratio 56 mph

2005 Eton Beamer (Taiwan Zuma Clone) Airsal sport 70cc 9200 peak rpm top speed 42 77.5 mikuni jet needle 1 clip rich (sold)


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Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:14 pm
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Post Re: 2004 Vinos 46 mph build
Rejetted My Wifes Vino and reset the idle mixture .
I am at 2 1/4 turns out .
I was between jets 72 and 75 and went with the 72 for summer .
But it looks like for my wifes style 75 is better .
My wife is very heavy on the throttle she really only knows one speed W.F.O.
Told her when she lets off throttle if the temp is spiking and she can juice the throttle a couple times to bring in some fuel to cool it down.

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2004 Vinos Derestricted exhaust and variator stock carb with mikuni 70 main jet needle down 1 clip 40 mph
Athena Sport BBK waiting to go on

2004 Vino Malossi sport 70cc Malossi Wild Lion pipe malossi multivar 6.5 sliders green polini clutch springs stock carb 75 mikuni main one clip rich 47.5 mph Michelin S1 90/90/10 rear tire Michelin S1 3" x 10 up front

2004 Zuma Malossi sport 70 cc Technigas next r 2008 zuma torque driver polini high speed variator 5.5 grams sliders malossi delta clutch yellow contra yellow clutch springs Stock Carb 84 main jet 46 pilot jet needle 1 clip rich stock athena 14/42 gears 11 to 1 final ratio 56 mph

2005 Eton Beamer (Taiwan Zuma Clone) Airsal sport 70cc 9200 peak rpm top speed 42 77.5 mikuni jet needle 1 clip rich (sold)


Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:17 pm
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Post Re: 2004 Vinos 46 mph build
Malossi variator swapped in and tuned
went from stock 5.5 grams 7500 rpms

5k clutch engagement still works real well .
6.3 grams in the malossi variator top speed was 47.5 7800 rpms just under 4 mm belt travel left.
5.7 grams top speed was 46.5 8200 rpms under between just over 4mm belt travel left.
7500-8200 is probably where you will want to set to have your variator jump withte the malossi bbk and wild lion .
I peak out at about 9000 rpms with this set up when I had stock variator I would get in the high 9's for less speed .
So the gear ratio of the new variator is working my engine less .

Also swapped in the green polini springs and a zuma contra which is beefier than the vino contra helped with down shifting.

I am running a stiffer contra so my weights actually are a notch higher also by probably a 1/4 gram .
When you go up a contra your weights need to be heavier to pull the belt away from the stronger contra .

Used a very thin shim the malossi drive boss is a longer than stock .

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2004 Vinos Derestricted exhaust and variator stock carb with mikuni 70 main jet needle down 1 clip 40 mph
Athena Sport BBK waiting to go on

2004 Vino Malossi sport 70cc Malossi Wild Lion pipe malossi multivar 6.5 sliders green polini clutch springs stock carb 75 mikuni main one clip rich 47.5 mph Michelin S1 90/90/10 rear tire Michelin S1 3" x 10 up front

2004 Zuma Malossi sport 70 cc Technigas next r 2008 zuma torque driver polini high speed variator 5.5 grams sliders malossi delta clutch yellow contra yellow clutch springs Stock Carb 84 main jet 46 pilot jet needle 1 clip rich stock athena 14/42 gears 11 to 1 final ratio 56 mph

2005 Eton Beamer (Taiwan Zuma Clone) Airsal sport 70cc 9200 peak rpm top speed 42 77.5 mikuni jet needle 1 clip rich (sold)


Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:56 pm
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Post Re: 2004 Vinos 46 mph build
47against wind 49 with with wind 47.5 going cross wind
so new high is 47.5 mph
Swapped in 6.5 sliders into the malossi under throttle jumps to 8000 rpms .
Good acceleration just like 5.7 and 6.3 rollers .
rpms at various speeds 7500 rpms 40-41 mph
8900 rpms 49.4 mph
8500 rpms 47.5 mph
put a thin shim on both sides one between the drive boss and the varaiator fan and one behind the varaitor ramp plate and the starter clutch.
The malossi instructions want a shim on both ends I just had to size them down so the spacing was right.

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2004 Vinos Derestricted exhaust and variator stock carb with mikuni 70 main jet needle down 1 clip 40 mph
Athena Sport BBK waiting to go on

2004 Vino Malossi sport 70cc Malossi Wild Lion pipe malossi multivar 6.5 sliders green polini clutch springs stock carb 75 mikuni main one clip rich 47.5 mph Michelin S1 90/90/10 rear tire Michelin S1 3" x 10 up front

2004 Zuma Malossi sport 70 cc Technigas next r 2008 zuma torque driver polini high speed variator 5.5 grams sliders malossi delta clutch yellow contra yellow clutch springs Stock Carb 84 main jet 46 pilot jet needle 1 clip rich stock athena 14/42 gears 11 to 1 final ratio 56 mph

2005 Eton Beamer (Taiwan Zuma Clone) Airsal sport 70cc 9200 peak rpm top speed 42 77.5 mikuni jet needle 1 clip rich (sold)


Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:31 pm
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Post Re: 2004 Vinos 46 mph build
Slight upgrade in order for the other vino
ordering malossi wild lion malossi multivar.
Will swap this on for the fall and put the athena kit on in the spring .

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2004 Vinos Derestricted exhaust and variator stock carb with mikuni 70 main jet needle down 1 clip 40 mph
Athena Sport BBK waiting to go on

2004 Vino Malossi sport 70cc Malossi Wild Lion pipe malossi multivar 6.5 sliders green polini clutch springs stock carb 75 mikuni main one clip rich 47.5 mph Michelin S1 90/90/10 rear tire Michelin S1 3" x 10 up front

2004 Zuma Malossi sport 70 cc Technigas next r 2008 zuma torque driver polini high speed variator 5.5 grams sliders malossi delta clutch yellow contra yellow clutch springs Stock Carb 84 main jet 46 pilot jet needle 1 clip rich stock athena 14/42 gears 11 to 1 final ratio 56 mph

2005 Eton Beamer (Taiwan Zuma Clone) Airsal sport 70cc 9200 peak rpm top speed 42 77.5 mikuni jet needle 1 clip rich (sold)


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