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Post Re: Getting a Spare Key Made???
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It will not start without the key being programmed. the key "IS" programmed to function with the ignition. If you look on the side of your key you will see a black circle/dot thingy, this is where the chip is inserted to the key and the dealer is the only one that can do this and will need a vin to program it and thats where it gets pricey. With out that you will only be able to use it to open the gas tank, seat and switch.

There is no chip in a Zuma 125 key. The little circle you are referring to is a detent for the sprung ball bearing that lets the end of the key swivel and stay at 90º to the main part of the key.

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According to my salesman, it will be about 100 bucks to program the key to the ignition.

Yea... I think your salesman is pulling your leg. :raise:


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According to my salesman, it will be about 100 bucks to program the key to the ignition.

ask your dealer how much crack he's been smokin' :2bong:

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who knows man.... im just stating what he told me... i was trying to get another key aside from the spare for my g/f to have and i decided not to until he told me that... and i wasnt talking about the metal circle on the key swivel... theres is a black one obove that.... i saw it on my key. Personally i dont know if the scoot will start or not with out being programmed.... only one way to find out and thats to try it out...

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Post Re: Getting a Spare Key Made???
cbolling wrote:
Anybody gotten a spare key made for their Zuma?

Mine only came with 1 and I would like to have a spare. The local Yamaha Dealer ordered one and it took over a month before they could get it.

Well it came in and it is the whole key set, by this I mean 2 keys and the round silver part that the key goes in. $40 for the whole thing which is actually less than I would think this cost for all that but I don't want all that. All I want is a spare made.

Is the little part on the back that moves the lock cover different for each bike or will 1 zuma key open the lock cover on all Zumas. They looked the same at the dealer.

I just need a spare key made. Any suggestions?


Yes, I just purchased a 2005 49cc Zuma that had only one key, I took the key to ACE HARDWARE and had two extra keys made for $1.99/each and they both work fine; start-up, open seat & shut off.


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I just got two spares keys made for my 2005 Zuma 49cc at Ace Hardware for $1.99/each using my original Zuma key to copy from.... they work fine....


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In case anyone is going to order a cover & key set, apparently the keys come in right and left versions, with 2 different part numbers. Here is what 2wheelpros says:

"Looking at the existing key with the plastic on the bottom and the metal on top, if the groove is on the right side of the key then use 5S9-WH250-10-C0 if on left use 5S9-WH250-10-A0"


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Post Re: Getting a Spare Key Made???
raygromer wrote:
In case anyone is going to order a cover & key set, apparently the keys come in right and left versions, with 2 different part numbers. Here is what 2wheelpros says:

"Looking at the existing key with the plastic on the bottom and the metal on top, if the groove is on the right side of the key then use 5S9-WH250-10-C0 if on left use 5S9-WH250-10-A0"


Is it just me or is that description impossible? Here is my key, I'm assuming the groove is circled in red but if you flip it over its on the other side... Not sure if the blue side is correct or the yellow side is correct to decipher this... I've never had an issue with this key being upside down like a house key. Am I crazy/stupid? (Entirely possible scenario)

PS thanks for the part numbers - super helpful and i'll definitely be ordering one when I figure this out... i've found my (1 set) of keys on the beach miraculously a few times and I probably shouldn't rely on that type of luck


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I'm pretty sure they're not talking about the little notch you have circled, they're talking about the 1-1/4" long groove. Yours is on the left side (unless your photo is reversed). Look at the photos on page 2 of this thread, those are on the right side.


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raygromer wrote:
I'm pretty sure they're not talking about the little notch you have circled, they're talking about the 1-1/4" long groove. Yours is on the left side (unless your photo is reversed). Look at the photos on page 2 of this thread, those are on the right side.


Great... thanks for clarifying - i see it now

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This is what I got when I ordered WH250-10-C0. Apparantly, the part number changed to 5S9-WH250-11-C0

Note the last character in the part number is zero, not the letter O


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Post Re: Getting a Spare Key Made???
I know that this is an old string, but a lot has happened since the last post that I would like to add to it. I too bought my 2013 Zuma 125 used and it came with two keys, but only one of them has the little magnetic Key Bow and there is no key identification number tag on the key ring.

When I talked with the folks at Yamaha, they told me that they can’t identify and copy the key using the vin number. It needs the key identification number to make a match. The only solution would be to purchase a whole new set of keys as well as a new key hole set up like the photo above in raygromer’s post. Oh, you would also need the gas cap lock as well as the ignition. The cost of this is over US$100, not counting any installation costs.

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I know it is not the best solution, but it is a quick/cheap solution... I had an issue where the tiny magnets (located in the ignition locking mechanism would not respond well when using my key to unlock the ignition. I tried both keys and it was the same result. I removed the ignition lock assembly and took it apart. (Make sure you do this in an area that is clean and easy to spot tiny springs and magnets when they fly out.) On my ignition lock assembly I noticed that the springs where worn out and did not provide equal support to each of the tiny magnets. If even one magnet does not rise to the correct position, then the lock will not unlock. I ended up just removing all the magnets and springs from behind the metal plate where the key goes to unlock it. I cleaned and lubricated everything with dry teflon spray lube and re-assembled everything. Now it will unlock with the key or any other object that you can use in its place. It is obviously not as secure as it once was when the magnets/springs worked... but at least it functions well enough. The ignition lock was never meant to provide great security... it is only a minor theft deterrant. Anyone with a truck/trailer and some help can take your bike. The ignition assembly can be accessed and replaced without ever having to unlock the cover plate.

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It not a technical reason but rather an amazing one. The M as you may know it was born as the Myrtle Ave El which ran from the Brooklyn Bridge to Wyckoff Ave. The reason it wasn extended further is obvious once you it's similar to: Brooklyn and Queens weren yet portion of the same city. The Brooklyn Rapid Transit Co didn have the rights to form lines in places that weren Brooklyn and Wyckoff is the border. At Wyckoff Av there seems to be a trolley that continued northeast to the major cemeteries in Middle Village.

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