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Post I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
The other day I was outside washing my 05 zuma (4850 miles) and I decided that since it was nice outside and I had some free time, I would go ahead and change the gear oil too. So I took the "bolt" out and proceeded to drain the oil. After all of the oil was drained I put the bolt back in and filled it up with fresh gear oil (on sale at Wal-Mart, plus 10% discount since my mom works there lol) and then I proceeded to tighten the bolt as some gear oil leaked out. My gf was outside talking to me while I was tightening it and I wasn't paying too much attention to the tightening. She asked me some question and right before I was going to answer, I heard a "pop" I hesitated to look down...but I did, and I found the head of the bolt in my socket wrench. Now I have a minor oil leak and I cant get the bolt out. I might have to take it to the dealer :(. What do yall think I should do? :(


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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
oh man... :wth:

i'd say it can be resolved with help of an expert such as the dealer... :(


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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
You might try to drill a hole (center punch first for a guide) for an Easy Out, I have a set of them that I bought from Sears that you tap into the drilled hole & take out the broken bolt....
May be a little awkward to get to though....
When I am tightning I always grab my 3/8" rachet at half handle so I don't apply to much torque....
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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
Do you have a dremmel or small rotary tool? You could try grinding (carefully) a slot for a flathead screwdriver into the bolt.

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Do you have a dremmel or small rotary tool? You could try grinding (carefully) a slot for a flathead screwdriver into the bolt.


yeah that's a good tip!!! i have seen that done before... hopefully it's not real tight, get a large flathead so u can get some torque on it! :whip:


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I dont know how the head snapped off, its threading into aluminum, isn't it?

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I dont know how the head snapped off, its threading into aluminum, isn't it?


yeah, but it's prolly not a heavy bolt, and it prolly wouldn't take a lot of torque to do it... :doh:


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I recommend the easy-out method. That always works well for me at work and we work with bolts that require a lot more torque than the gear oil bolt.

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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
I will probably use the easy-out method, although I do like the idea of using a dremmel. I will post back once I make a regretful trip to sears. Thanks for the help everyone!


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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
Go and buy a very small chisel, and lightly tap into whats left of the plug. Then angle the chisel as if you where going to "drive" it CCW. If the head came off, then there should not be much holding in the threaded portion.

Drilling works well, as do all the other idea's.

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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
Make sure to use a reverse drill as the back side of the whole is open to the gear box, with a standard drill there is a high possibility of running the remainder of the bolt into the gear box (that would be worse). I do this all the time and start with a sharp screw driver or chisle and try to tap it out in a CCW rotation, then if that doesnt work as stated above the dremel is the second step for me on a bolt thats not bottemed out or crosstherded then if there is to much resistance on the bolt I tap and eas it out but for sure use a reverse drill bit here.


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Make sure to use a reverse drill as the back side of the whole is open to the gear box, with a standard drill there is a high possibility of running the remainder of the bolt into the gear box (that would be worse). I do this all the time and start with a sharp screw driver or chisle and try to tap it out in a CCW rotation, then if that doesnt work as stated above the dremel is the second step for me on a bolt thats not bottemed out or crosstherded then if there is to much resistance on the bolt I tap and eas it out but for sure use a reverse drill bit here.


Isn't this pretty much a repeat of what was said by two other people? :confused:

Im not sure how it is on the Zuma but on the vino's gear box if you were to "accidentally" drive the screw all the way into the box the only thing bad that would happen is the screw would go up into the box, but miss the gears, and oil would run out. Of course you'd have to open the box but nothing detrimental would happen.

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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
Either your GF had just told you she cheated on you or you gotta lay off the steroids. LOL

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Either your GF had just told you she cheated on you or you gotta lay off the steroids. LOL



YEAH, what the hell were you using a breaker bar? I put mine on with an impact wrench and it didn't break.

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Post Re: I did a bad bad thing while changing the gear oil...
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ttrcycles wrote:
Make sure to use a reverse drill as the back side of the whole is open to the gear box, with a standard drill there is a high possibility of running the remainder of the bolt into the gear box (that would be worse). I do this all the time and start with a sharp screw driver or chisle and try to tap it out in a CCW rotation, then if that doesnt work as stated above the dremel is the second step for me on a bolt thats not bottemed out or crosstherded then if there is to much resistance on the bolt I tap and eas it out but for sure use a reverse drill bit here.


Isn't this pretty much a repeat of what was said by two other people? :confused:

Im not sure how it is on the Zuma but on the vino's gear box if you were to "accidentally" drive the screw all the way into the box the only thing bad that would happen is the screw would go up into the box, but miss the gears, and oil would run out. Of course you'd have to open the box but nothing detrimental would happen.


No, If you note I gave propes to the upper posters but my main point is to use a reverse drill. The oil wherling around in the gear box can pick up a small bolt then your gear box is toast.


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